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HAPPY ANNIVERSARY PAPA JOHN AND CORNEILA

This is turning out to be a very hectic week.  with Melaura in Hospital and the other two. . . .

Have a good evening, and I will see y'all soon.

Pinkie - the name Moak was at one time (probably 200 years ago or so) Van Ter Mook, which is a Dutch name.  The village of Mook is on the Western border of Holland with Germany, somewhat south of Arnheim.  So the name is Dutch.  I, however, am a very, very strange combination!  I am Dutch and Italian! You really can't get those two together, but they did.  My Grandmother's name was Campiglia, from Florence, Italy.  Oh well!

Mieka - I'm going to let iain answer the questions about the storehouse, etc.

Good evening everyone!!!!

I just know that Papa John and Cornelia will be enjoying themselves dining and spending the night out!  Congratulations!!!

Glad to hear that little Travis is better.  GET BETTER, TRAVIS!!!  MOMMY NEEDS THE EXERCISE!!!  

Hugs to Mieka!  Great question but I will let someone else answer you.

Hi Jane!!!!  You are next!!!!  

Today was wonderful.  I sat on my deck with my book and read until I got too hot.  Then I moved to my swing where there was a great breeze.  I read until my eyes closed.  Then I came inside and read while in my recliner.  Yes, I took a nap.

Then Ivalou called to see if I wanted to go somewhere to eat.  Duh???  So we went to the Pizza King at Lapel and then to the Dollar General...both only opened in the last month.  Kind of neat to only drive a mile or so instead of 8-10 miles to eat and shop a little.  

Talking to Jerry on IM.  He said it rained at his house today.  Not here.  He is 10.5 miles away.

To our "North of the Border" Friends

Papa John, I hope you and Cornelia are having a wonderful evening.  

Today has been very lazy for me, packed a little bit, ate a lot (still smoke free), went to the Post office and market and watered the trees. tomorrow I have to go to the Post office in Apple Valley to get the updated change of address forms the local PO didn't have them.  Spent some time on the internet doing some research at the Creation Evidence web site. What a shame that the atheists are so adamant on the evolution theory.So much so that they will not accept the evidence when it is presented to them. I think I should stay out of the Religious Issues thread on SN. 94 F here at the moment. But cool in the house A/C on. Had a real nice IM visit with dear Janet It is always a blessing to chat with you Janet.

Hi Melvin I got your email will answer shortly.

God Bless y-all
Marilyn

Happy Anniversary Papa John and Cornelia!

Pinky I wouldn't say all by myself, but I could say with the with the definate help of PSP.  

Mom, why didn't anyone tell me that Melaura was in hospital?  I would have been praying for her.

God bless ya'll
Heather

Thanks so much, Marilyn.  I wish we lived near each other so we could chat over tea!  But we will get to visit to our hearts' content in heaven.....soon, I hope!

Mieka, I am back with the Scriptures I was looking for in answer to your question about whether or not it is all right with God for His people to be wealthy.

Luke 6:38......Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down and shaken together shall men give into your bosom.  For with the same measure that you measure, it shall be measured again to you.

This tells us that if we are faithful to give, that it will be returned to us many times over!  We cannot out-give God!  If we are stingy and reluctant to give, then we will have little return.  But if we give generously, it will be given to us, generously!  God is NOT against us having wealth, he tells us in His word that He is the one who gives us the power to get wealth.

II Corinthians 9:6-8 Remember this:  he who sows sparingly and grudgingly will also reap sparingly and grudgingly, and he who sows generously and that blessings may come to someone, will also reap generously and with blessings.  Let each one give as he has made up his own mind and purposed in his heart, not reluctantly or sorrowfully or under compulsion, for God loves, that is, He takes pleasure in, prizes above other things, and is unwilling to abandon or to do without a cheerful, joyous, prompt-to-do-it giver---whose heart is in his giving.

And God is able to make all grace (every favor and earthly blessing) come to you in abundance, so that you may always and under all circumstances and whatever the need, be self-sufficient--possessing enough to require no aid or support and furnished in abundance for every good work and charitable donation. Amp.

Some of the greatest Christian men and women I know today are very wealthy---but they are also the greatest givers!  The more they give, the more is returned to them, and the more they accomplish for the kingdom of God.  But they give to be a blessing, not just to be blessed themselves.  And their hearts are pure before God.  These things make all the difference!

I believe with all my heart that it brings far more glory to God for his children to be walking in divine health, with all their needs supplied, than to be sick, poor, and discouraged.  What does that say about the God who loves us, who sent Jesus to die for us??  Jesus paid the price for all these things on the cross.

I hope I haven't preached too long, dear Mieka.  You can probably tell, this is something I feel strongly about!

Well said Janet.

Mieka offerings are to be given above and beyond our tithe, tithes and offerings are not the same thing, but I will leave it to Iain, Al or Papa John to give youthe scriptures and explain it better.

I believe that we should also at least tithe our time to the Lord, that would only be 2 hours and 40 minutes of each day. However we should be spending more time than that withthe Lord, we should be walking with Him 24 hours a day 7 days a week. We are to tithe of ALL our increase.

Okay, I'm going to jump in here and offer my opinion about the storehouse.

Yes, a tithe is the first 10% of what we get/give.  I don't think there is any question there.  In Biblical times, the way I understand it, it was more of an agrarian society, so the first tenth of the harvest would go to the storehouse where it would be used for God's men and their service to the Lord.

Today, we don't give grain, or crops, but money.  Logically, the most obvious place to give this is your church.  However, I do think that doing some of the things like Mieka mentioned (helping the poor, widows, etc) is also a valid use of the money.  It is helping build up God's kingom.

I suppose we could split hairs over this, as I have seen that happen many times, sadly enough, but when it comes to "what is right" and "what is not" about issues like this, I think it helps to remember that it is a matter of the heart.  God knows your heart.  If you are giving money, time, talents, whatever, because you want to please Him, because you love Him, and you want His kingdom to grow, he will see that.  On the other hand, if you begrudgingly give one tenth of your income to the church simply because that is what you think is expected of you, God sees that too.

It also helps to remember that 100 per cent of the stuff (money, time, etc) is God's.  We are just kinda borrowing the 90.

Just my 2 cents worth (or actually, 1.8 cents worth, after the tithe!!!)

Good discussion in here today!

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